Self-Taught Japanese, Part II

CONTRIBUTED BY ERIN SCHALK

We are continuing a series on self-taught Japanese.  To read Part I, click HERE.

Self Taught Rosetta

Rosetta Stone vs. Mango Languages:

We have all seen plenty of Rosetta Stone advertisements and know of its large price tag.  As military families, we can (thankfully!) avoid that cost by registering for an account through the Kadena Library.  But, is it the best resource to use for self-teaching Japanese?  The answer is: that depends.
In the past, I worked at a library, and was fortunate to have had opportunities to test many different language-learning resources, and eventually became the “go-to gal” for patrons wanting to learn a language.  I remember one patron expressing his frustration with trying to learn Japanese through Rosetta Stone. Previously, he had learned Spanish using Rosetta Stone and gained a solid level of proficiency.  Not so with Japanese.

In my opinion, the difficulty of learning Rosetta Stone Japanese involves the unfamiliar grammatical rules.  Most of us know about Rosetta Stone’s immersive learning philosophy.  This can certainly work well, up to a point.  As children, we learned much of our native language in an immersive environment: listening to our parents speak to us, watching television, interacting with our friends, and so on.

In school, however, we gained increased fluency in our mother tongue through classes explaining key grammar concepts that would have been quite difficult for us to infer on our own.  (Please, Mrs. Baylong, no!  Don’t make me read an extra chapter of Voyages in English as a punishment!)  Also, hearing and seeing Japanese isn’t enough for many of us, especially for adults who do not have the amazingly absorbent brains of children!  Why does Japanese have all of these particles?  What is the difference between “wa,” “ga,” and “ka?”  How are they used?  Rosetta Stone will not tell us explicitly, often leaving us feeling confused and discouraged.

Fortunately, this frustration can be lessened by supplementing Rosetta Stone with a Japanese textbook to fill in the missing “grammar gaps.”  Plus, Rosetta Stone’s immersive environment has many positive attributes.   It eliminates translating words into your native language, creating that 2-step approach to learning that I mentioned in last weeks post.  The program is also interactive, challenging you to match a piece of spoken dialog with a corresponding image, filling in the missing word from a sentence, and so forth.

Mango Languages is another great Japanese learning resource that MCCS libraries provide.  One minor drawback to Mango is that it is not as interactive as Rosetta Stone, meaning it will play a short dialog, have you repeat it, and quiz you on it later.  This can work well for you if you learn best by listening and repeating, but some of us (myself included) need a bit more variety to learn effectively.

Mango, however, offers benefits that Rosetta Stone does not, depending on your learning style and goals.  Mango breaks up lessons with a few Japanese culture and etiquette tips – information which can be just as important as knowing Japanese itself!  It also takes time to explain a grammatical concept pertinent to each lesson, helping alleviate the “grammar gaps” problem.   Unlike Rosetta Stone, which begins teaching sentences such as, “The boy is drinking,” and “she is sleeping,” Mango focuses on phrases that are immediately practical for everyday use such as, “Nice view, isn’t it?” and “What country are you from?”

Access to Rosetta Stone and Mango is free for military families on Okinawa, provided you obtain an account through a base library.   Ask your library for more details on their policies, available seats, and obtaining access.

 

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  • May 15, 2011

    Try

    nihongo-dekimasu.blogspot.com

    they have a lots of great little helpers to learn more japanese.

    barney
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  • May 14, 2011

    You can get Rosetta Stone for free through your spouse online from home. Although maybe it has something to d with the library at some point. My husband just logged into this website where he can take online classes that start at any time and he has to complete them in a certain amount of days or they ‘expire’ So he just gave me his log in info and showed me how to select Rosetta Stone. Not sure if this is applicable to Airforce though.

    I learned Japanese in high school but needed to brush up on it before I moved here so I bought a video game for my DSi called “My Japanese Language Coach” It’s a pretty decent language game. It’s not perfect, but no self teaching method is. It has audio to listen to the pronunciation ans you can record your voice to compare the two. It’s great for learning vocabulary. It’s great for those times you’re waiting in a Drs office or waiting for school to be let out when picking up the kids. Once you get past all of the kana and gana lessons, it mixes up your lessons with sentence structures, particles, and vocabulary. At the end of the lesson you play a few simple games to help you learn and review the lesson. It tracks your progress by keeping track of how well you know the things you’ve learned using a point system. You have to get a certain amount of points by playing the games to unlock the next lesson or a new type of game. Each lesson takes about 15 minutes including one round of each of the games presented. You can also go back and review the lessons you’ve already done and play the games with out doing the lessons. It has dictionaries in English and hiragana or you can search for phrases using a word that’s in the phrase. Mind you it doesn’t have every single phrase, but it has some pretty common ones. Overall, it’s a quick way to get the basics and expand your vocabulary when you don’t have much time. But like I said, it’s not perfect.

    Tanuki
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  • May 13, 2011

    Lucy, you have to go to the Kadena (air force base) library for Rosetta Stone. The Mango program is offered through any of the Marine Corps base libraries. I’m using the Rosetta Stone program right now so I know they’re still offering it.

    Dana
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  • May 13, 2011

    Mango Languages is happy to hear good comments and thoughts. Mango welcomes any feedback and enhancement, and those can be left on the Mango Languages website http://www.mangolanguages.com

    Jane Potee
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  • May 13, 2011

    Hi Erin,

    Thanks for this great series! We’ll be moving to Okinawa in July and I’m trying to prepare myself by trying to learn a little of the language.

    I just wanted to make sure that Rosetta Stone is still being offered to military families on Kadena. I went to our library on base here (Parris Island) and the librarian told me they’re no longer offering Rosetta Stone for free. However, they do offer Mango. I’ve downloaded that program and it seems pretty good–now I just need the self-discipline to sit down and do it!

    Lucy
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